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"Biphobia" thread Anonymous 10/25/2020 (Sun) 07:56:18 No. 2369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_RhXJ5a0-k Why are bisexuals like this?
>Gay or lesbian >In a same-sex relationship Huh. Maybe having a strong preferance for virgins of any stripe isn't so bad after all if wanting to avoid STDs is valid.
>>2370 I mean you don't need to require actual virginity. Lesbians are pure of STDs by default. It's just any contact with dick increases the chances.
>>2371 Are you fucking retarded? Sure lesbians have less incidence of having STDs but thinking the straight up don't is literally asking to get genital herpes in your mouth, its like straight people thinking they can't get HIV because there's a higher incidence of it on gay men.
>>2374 Yes, but most of thosedo come from bisexuals or "ex-hets".
>>2369 Even as a bisexual woman, I feel like it makes total sense for lesbians to feel this way but I always get roasted if I express thinking "gold star" isn't unreasonable. I feel like bisexual woman empathizing with lesbians get accused of "internalized biphobia" or something at every turn by other bi people.
>>2384 funny you say this, the only people who are against the goldstar term and think it's "bigotry" are bisexual women who have never in their lives touched any pussy beyond their own. the only discourse happening around it comes from bi-hets, and yet they act as if there are lesbian death-squads walking around that are killing every woman that has touched dick
Watched this and it's odd here first reaction to why most bi people are in opposite sex relationships is heterosexual privilege. It plays a role, but most people are straight. It's statistics. Most people they meet and will be interested in a relationship will be straight. Unless you count that as a privilege, or I'm wrong and straight privilege plays a bigger role, The jump to assumption most bi women are looking for flings with women surprised me, but I suppose that when lesbian pool is smaller, unlike straight people they take dating more seriously because you probably won't meet someone compatible so easily and then the statistics show most bi people are in straight relationships. Really weird though to hear her say bi women aren't longterm prospects outright although I understand the reasoning. At 1:36:00 she reiterates she doesn't believe bi women are more likely to be cheaters, etc. and that it comes down to opportunity to cheat and its emotional impacts. Point about bi women not critically thinking about practices in heterosexual sex and projecting these dynamics with a lesbian is really interesting. And one about threat from a bi woman's former male partners is one I'd never heard about but seems so important? Why is this the first place I've heard it?
I don't want to be rude but like... if you actually love yourself and women, then... how could loving a man even come close? Why don't bi women just never date men again? That's what I did, I just don't get the mentality. Once I learned the truth about men I lost all attraction to them. The faults in hetero relationships become very stark once you're exposed to equal homo relationships.
I agree that lesbians don't owe love to absolutely fucking anyone, but here is something I gon't get. Everyone and their tumblr is acting like bisexual women are these super privileged traitors who have a 50/50 split choice between the financially secure socially privileged heterosexual marriage with an asswipe scrote and a loving perfect wonderful politically righteous relationship with a woman just waiting in the wing if she says no to the het privilege. So bi women need to take responsibility for their sexual behavior. But when we start talking about heterosexual women, most radfems are in the clear that you can't control your attraction, that people find it difficult to live without a romantic partner, that we should be understanding of other people's perspective and that most women, including het, aren't pinkpilled, so we can't really expect them to make that choice that goes way against social expectations. Most bi women are not radfems either, also, being bi, you did grow up with the same expextations as a het woman, sort of having the software that is required of a "proper het woman" too. There's a roughly 10 men : 1 woman in your dating pool if you're bi most of the time, and then saying no to men doesn't mean your chances of finding a female partner automatically increase. If you aren't actively and decisively trying to find a woman to date the dating pool looks more like 100m:1f. It's almost never a clear 50/50 attraction other, they lean one way or the other. Bi women are not immune to homophobia either, I don't have ther exact numbers, but most never act out on their bisexuality beyond maybe masturbation ever when they have opportunities, and if that makes them traitors to the LGB, well, I don't see any such scrutiny directed at bi men. I also don't see bi men being criticized for being "too het" or being to blame for the gender nonsense. Being in a lesbian relationship isn't all that easy either, relationships in general are hard are there are plenty of lesbians who struggle to find The One, Sekhmet She-Owl herself included. Granted, being with het men is statistically so much shittier we can't compare, but it takes far less effort to get stuck in one. I don't exactly see then how we can't ever expect het women to stop dating men even if said women proclaim themselves hardcore radical feminists, but the general population of bi women owes us exactly that and if they don't do that they are traitors, impure and tainted by association with men while het women are just being themselves. Granted, Sekhmet doesn't cut any slack to hets, but she is in minority.
>>2384 Yeah, that shit is definitely braindead. It's embarrassing to see bisexuals act that way, and sadly true that it's other bi women in ""queer"" spaces who turned the discourse into such a mess.
>>2402 >But when we start talking about heterosexual women, most radfems are in the clear that you can't control your attraction, that people find it difficult to live without a romantic partner, that we should be understanding of other people's perspective and that most women, including het, aren't pinkpilled, so we can't really expect them to make that choice that goes way against social expectations. Is that really how the discourse goes on tumblr? Because on radtwitter we have lesbians and febfems on one side suggesting that women shouldn't date men and praising South Korean feminists for being staunch separatists, and on the other side a lot of my fellow straightfems explode with rage if you even so much as suggest that being in a romantic relationship with a man can be dangerous lmao. It's a shitshow. Personally I agree that separatism should be an option for women, and sometimes I think that it's the only way to liberate women from patriarchy, but I know that there are some exceptions out there despite the overwhelming majority of men being shit. It's still not worth going out of your way to look for them. Better to make yourself happy first than holding out for a perfect romantic partner that may never show up.
>>2431 I mean, it isn't just tumblr, there are users on asherah who shill straight coupling as politically neutral, and such is the vibe in the wider GC spaces.
>>2432 They act like overly defensive children whenever the topic comes up. If they're happy in their relationships then cool, but I don't know why they have to act like heterosexual relationships don't warrant some analysis when like, over half of female murder victims are killed by their intimate partners, among lots of other issues that may or may not be related to domestic violence.
>>2433 >I don't know why they have to act like heterosexual relationships don't warrant some analysis when like, over half of female murder victims are killed by their intimate partners Yes, thank you. Exactly.
>>2433 I used to be very reluctant like that. It wasn't because I had a single moid in my life I considered a swell fellow, it was because I was feeling defensive about my het friends and relatives, I also have no lesbians/bi in my circles. It's hard to believe in het privilege when they have to support financially their abusive moids as well as feed the kids, get shit for being neglectful shitty moms and "entitled mommies" all the time and all that. It's not like they were told at 18 "ok, so there's your choice > Prince Charming (+ Gold, - Karma) > Radical Sisterhood (+ Karma, - Gold) " and choose the evil option and the way things are around here, you are factually way better off alone, but the sheer peer and cultural pressure doesn't want you alone. Sekhmet in particular seems very bent on the idea that if not every then most het women are living the white picket fence dream, live on their man's dime, all that, and any het women's problems are whining about not being rewarded enough for concious betrayal of sisterhoodland. It's just bollocks. But I got into it through structural critique later. In 99.9% of situations the society in general will be more approving of you if you admit to having a long-term male fuckbuddy. You will benefit from a man's incomeand\or inherittance quite often, at least the implication is always such. You will be generally considered more "normal" if you are married even if you are a fucking wreck of a human. You will be shat on for raising kids without a man. But I'd say cultural reward in many modern places is way more tangible, if not the only one, than financial one, but I've been told this is comphet rhetoric, and so it's lesbophobic and I don't understand anything anymore.
>>2436 Unless youre living in a close community that helps eachother out, then the social clout isnt worth it at all. Literally just lie about looking for a husband and get all teary when kids are mentioned. Find other women who dont talk about husbands or kids or bfs and become friends, rent a place togeather to help with bills. Or find a closested gay man with money. Its not like modern men are even 'providing' for their wives anymore. Thwyre literally just for good girl points and sharing rent.


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