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Unpopular Opinions Thread Anonymous 04/13/2020 (Mon) 02:56:07 No. 320
What controversial opinions do you hold? Post them here!
>>1408 I thought companies only pretended to care and casted nonwhite actors as supporting cast members. Hopefully, you are not deprived of white male lead husbandos.
Minimalism is ugly except for when you want to clean
>>1430 no it's beautiful so when you die your loved ones don't have too much shit to go through
>>1431 but at its heart, it's actually a luxury good and is pretty impractical. i have so many tools, home repair equipment, items for general maintenance, i couldn't possibly imagine paying a premium for services every time something comes up, and being reliant on someone else and their time, when i'm in a bind. i can't possibly declutter or pare down on necessary equipment. i guess if you have the money and time to waste, it's ok.
Dominatrix and femdoms are as pathetic as male scrotes, often just as cringe inducing as those soybeard males who want to be called daddy Like BDSM Dom's in general are among some of the most pathetic people in the world
>>1408 i dont find white actors that hot, and those that are hot are so few, you can only count them with your fingers. but whos your top hot white guy actor nonetheless?
>>1624 Nta I don't specially white men but rather cacausian men which includes Afghans, Pakistan's and white Europeans, for e.g I find Seraiki men to be some of the most beautiful men in the world, they have brown skin but also often have colored eyes and brown hair which sometimes matches their skintone and they end up looking very fine. I like Afridi Pashtun men and Slavic men as well cause I feel they have sharp features
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>>1623 I don't see how anything but internalized misogyny can inform this take. Like objectively, save for maybe some enbies, it's impossible for a woman to be as cringy as a man whose life is in shambles and who spends most of his day playing PUBG, wanting to be called daddy and having the gall to order women around like he's some kind of king. You'd be very hard pressed to find a woman who can drum up the levels of cringe that men can. On some level, the subversiveness objectively makes it less cringe somehow.
>>1654 Don't try to defend degeneracy, I hate and any all disgusting porn sick losers who try to make their fetish part of their identity
>>1654 Imo if there's anything lolcow dot farm taught me is that femdoms can be almost as crazy as male doms sometimes. They're obviously not worse but when I criticize BDSM or abusive kinks in general I mean all of it. I don't compartmentalize sex from the rest of the relationship, and being a sub is synonymous with self-harm to me. Doms take advantage of people with low self-esteem.
>>1697 Domme development is not typically borne out of pornsickness. That's not what's happening there, if you sincerely observe them. It's clearly more theatrical for women and less purely sexually motivated on average. >>1698 Lol, anon, "sub" men don't have low self esteem. It's not the same as sub women. You can't compare women and their pressures, the way male expectations affect their actions and expressions, etc, to men and their fetishes.
>>1699 >Domme development is not typically borne out of pornsickness. That's not what's happening there, if you sincerely observe them. It's clearly more theatrical for women and less purely sexually motivated on average Please for the love of Asherah don't try to defend degeneracy
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>>1700 Calling it like I see it is not "defending degeneracy". Yes, it's weird, but nowhere near as cringy or contemptible. Women take on more cues from men and a more literally active role in sex and intimacy due to male expectations, and that involves a lot of play-acting and performance. I think the fact that it gives the illusion of turning typical roles on their head can be psychologically appealing to some women. I think the development of these identities for women is much more complicated than people would like to think. Men don't feel this very specific type of pressure or influence, at least not to anywhere near the extent that women do. Men are acting on genuine sexual interest and pornsickness, not years and years of inescapable and pervasive cultural and social conditioning that teaches them to oblige women, nor are they often motivated by the prospect of the illusion of control after being forever deprived of autonomy and dignity, particularly in the sexual realm. They're much more free to explore their interests, where women aren't, and that's why dommes are so uncommon.
>>1704 Alright then what's your opinion on vanilla romance novels as well, that are more popular then any type of bdsm trash
>>1705 Not sure what your point is here. Vanilla romance novels reinforce the damsel in distress and rescuer roles, where women are again generally and sexually unempowered and are fed the sub/dom roles, but on a soft scale. This all plays into the development of women's romantic and sexual expression, all of it. Again, this is part of the reason why female "subs" are so popular. The writers of these books are also influenced by larger expectations and imposing social structures. I don't think the female readers of these books are usually "pornsick" though, either.
>>1707 Have you ever even read these books, while there are plenty of bad Dom/monster ones from the 80s, there are many good ones featuring smart, intelligent, strong women and actually likeable male characters There's no BDSM or the man taking the woman by force, but rather a healthy relationship and some tasteful sex scenes, sure they are not aways perfect and kinda samey but I feel they get unnecessarily get shit on by everyone, I'm seeing libfems shit on them saying that male characters are to buff and likeable for real men to live up to and it sets a toxic standard, I feel all the dom ones deserve to burned In the fire but the nice romance story between a Victorian farm hand and shy girl who devolep mutual affection for each other and have a healthy relationship isn't gonna set up toxic standards
>>1709 > Victorian farm hand kek, no one's writing or reading those. readers want hot rich men in their stories
>>1719 I avoid the rich billionaire ones cause they often fall into the monster/BDSM category, the Doctor romance series is as far as I go in terms of wealth
>>1709 A victorian farmhand and a shy female main character still reinforces what I was referencing. That's a generally, or at least, comparatively sexually unempowered character. Like I said, it's not encouraging explicit dom/sub shit, but typical gender roles. Female sub/male dom shit is just gender role garbage taken to the extreme. Softer versions of this, to me, is almost just a potential gateway, given that harder stuff is a lot more common in media and men prefer it by a longshot and women know that. That's why women are taking it upon themselves to play-act these roles for men without being necessarily asked, acting like 'soft' ddlg is part of their identity, etc. The expectations are there and are molding the way girls and women act, their 'preferences', and their sexual expression. And a character, or any person, for that matter, can be professionally or otherwise competent and relatively independen/strong, but still submissive in bed. I've had a number of guys tell me straight-up that women toooottally have this extreme desire to indulge themselves by being submissive in bed, BECAUSE they are independent and competent outside of bed. There's this idea of "letting loose" by indulging in some bullshit evo psych roleplay, and it's commonly accepted by both men and women. I believe all of these things do subconsciously shape women's sexual interests, or at least their actions and their claims.
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>>1722 You do know the sex is mainly just vanilla sex, oral(for the female mc) and cuddling right, like iti said avoid any and all bdsm ones and there really aren't that many of them I just want to fantasize about nice attractive men cause real men are shit
>>1723 Nitpick but this v photoshopped pic is hilarious to me. I love that she's wearing a very formal taffeta dress (why) in a random field and he's wearing dress pants/business slacks with no shirt in a field, while looking extremely out of place, not even acknowledging her. Read what you want, anon. No one is stopping you, and of course, it's better to imagine about a 'nice' guy in a novel than be unappreciated and mistreated by actual men. I'm just saying, all of these little things influence women. But back to the original topic, which is that imo, dommes just aren't as cringy as doms, mainly because their roleplay typically is more theatrical and not really all that genuinely sexually motivated when compared to doms.
>>1725 I honestly love it though, like there are so many random instances for men to randomly be shirtless and I love it, I read cause the men in those books are actually nice and caring and know how to make a woman cum despite being virgins In the story
>>1726 Kek, I personally don't get the muscled up shirtless man aesthetic, but if this is what does it for you, you do you. I don't think these hot hero farmhand books are hugely harmful, especially if we consider how fucked most sexual media actually is. I just think most of this type of erotica is centered around the same kind of thing: mostly unassertive woman being adored and rescued by a manly man with a shirt allergy, which doesn't challenge gender roles, is all I'm saying.
>>1728 I agree with your last point that it doesn't challenge conventional gender roles and aren't radical in anyway but compared to libfem sex positive media or pornsick male media then it's far far better
Speaking of which, I fucking cringe at heterosexual couples who feel the need to parade and perform such gender roles and stereotypes to everyone Like I've seen girls on social media who think it's fucking ~quirky~ and cute when their boyfriends don't know how to cook and they serve them a half-assed inedible looking sandwich or when their boyfriends act like they don't know how fucking lipstick works in one of those Boyfriend Does My Make Up challenges, and I could even go on with more examples. I swear, most heterosexual relationships I've seen even outside media is so damn performative.
>>1731 Yeah I also hate those self described "smol" girls on Twitter who have to emphasize how small and helpless they are and how big their bfs are It's cringy and self deprecating, also it's worse when the smol girl and tall boy are actually just average, like sorry your bf is 5"10 and your 5'5, that's literally just the average
"WAP" by Cardi B and Megan Thee Stalion is a utterly disgusting and vile and I do not understand how literally any feminist can defend this garbage Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for black women getting paid, but why are most of the visible bw music stars twerking/busting it open on stage? it reinforces the hypersexualisation of black women that has existed since slave days. can anyone think of cute Taylor swift like black girls who sing about love or friendship but apparently its now being brought up as the epitome of female empowerment https://www.complex.com/music/2020/08/cardi-b-megan-thee-stallion-wap-essay
>>2028 it's really, really bad. the video is truly awful. i wouldn't mind the song so much if it just was about being wet and like, cunnilingus or something, but some of the most memorable lyrics are about sucking dick, being tied up, etc. honestly to make matters so much worse, the song is horrible. not even considering the lyrics, it's absolutely unlistenable. sucks because i do think megan thee stallion is talented. i don't know why anyone even though to make it a single. it's not even hook-y. that article is insane and ridiculous btw. i didn't know people were trying that hard to pretend it's meaningful. the only positive thing that came from it is seeing ben shapiro being non-stop roasted for criticizing it. tho his few comments about how it spits in the face of feminism are right, not that he cares about feminism or wants women to be liberated at all, however.
>>2031 Like Jesus Christ I really don't wanna agree with Ben Shapiro but he is right that its too vulgar and degenerate but Candace Owens(someone else who I don't wanna agree with) talked about the song from the perspective of a black woman and how it just doesn't objectify black women it bestializes.them making them to be animals
>>2028 WAP = Whack Ass Pickmeishas
>>2028 >>2032 whats worse is cardi b her self ins't really black. she's a multiracial woman when it's convenient for her to do so, but plays up this "Black" stereotype, simply because she comes from an impoverished, inner-city background, and then everyone starts calling her Black. Newsflash people! Just because one is "ghetto" or "ratchet", not to mention racially ambiguous, doesn't automatically make one Black! She's called dark skinned black women roaches and monkeys.and called Candace Owens a race traitor and a white mans whore and yeah there a million things wrong with Candace Owens but she is actually a black woman and seems to be in healthy relationship
>>2038 wow, i had no clue there were so many receipts of cardi b calling black women 'roaches', wtf. i thought she was funny and kind of likable in a dumb way and she was honest about the "robbing" potential punters in order to survive, which was cool imo. that's a little disappointing. it is so weird considering she seems to avoid admitting she isn't really black and seems to be profiting off of that assumption. a lot of people are wrongly referring to her as black in relation to this WAP fiasco, apparently.
>>2038 >race traitor Ugly and below the belt. >white man's whore This is entirely accurate. You don't have a shred of credibility when you've sold out to the male white right. It's the same with supposedly pro-Asian women criticizing Asian men while being married to white guys. We get it: y'all hate yourselves even more than the guys hate themselves (looking at you AsianMasc).
>>2045 the comment had less to do with her politics and more due to the fact that she was married to a white guy, like I disagree with her politics but her relationship seems genuine, cardi (who is reminder again not black) making comments on how owens she can't handle a black man or about her marriage life when the debate was about politics is disrespectful and uncalled for
>>2028 I wish it could just be treated like another stupid ass party song but everything that women do has to be politicized somehow. I guess that's what happens when mainstream feminism makes female liberation all about choice and sexual availability to men uwu.
>>2048 Also I just listened to the full thing (I've only heard snippets before) and the other anons are right, the song is pretty bad tbh. It isn't catchy or has a distinct melody, and has too many lyrics that reference BDSM. I need to cleanse myself by listening to Not Tonight by Lil Kim. That's a real feminist sex anthem.
>>703 Thank you so much I fucking hate that moid
White women are hypocrites. you all voted 55% for the orange retard. An increase in 3% from 2016. This is why feminism doesn't go far with white women, they pushed it only because they wanted a cut of the racism pie while minority women get fucked over. You all had your chance with Hillary and rejected her. We had our chance with Kamala and we embraced her. This is why I keep white feminists at a 6 feet length. Never trustworthy.
>>2454 Not too sperg too much or cause an unnecessary argument, but there is too much of a conflation of the different types of white women. A meme that I have always been annoyed with is when people (woke woc types) would use the "53%" against the libfemmy type of white women. It was a super popular phrase during the women's march when the orange retard was first elected. There probably was a subset of white women who LARP as progressive who secretly were a part of the 53%, but I really do not think that subset is large enough to be a problem. That is not to say that racist feminists don't exist, they absolutely do exist but generally not in the "secretly voted for Trump" kind of way. The reality here is that based off of the exit polls the majority of white women that voted are full-on conservative and these women would more likely rather die than identify with feminism. Some of these women are hell-bent on their pro-life agenda, a lot of them are racist or clearly fine with overt racism from a president because of a single-issue (like abortion), some of it is because they will blindly back any republican no matter how retarded he is (those commie dems!!11)..etc. I don't know the full complexities of whatever is going on in their heads, but I do know that the majority would most likely never identify with feminism. Another thing to think about is why women who voted dem overall vote the way they do. A lot of the times they do not necessarily identify as feminists. They could be the world's biggest handmaidens and still vote dem because republicans are overly racist. I know a lot of older POC in general, despite being socially conservative, would never vote for republicans because of the overt racism from the party overall. If we're talking about voting habits from either sides, a lot of people unfortunately do not have complex, well-thought out reasons for why they vote for who they did. I do agree with you on the fact that white women (feminist or not) will reap the benefits of feminism while directly or indirectly maintaining racism and white patriarchy in the United States. I hope this made sense lol.
>>2454 >>2455 If that percentage comes from an exit poll (already notoriously skewed), it's going to be insanely skewed seeing as most that voted for this psychopath in person were literally all conservatives. But yeah, white women (and men) are selfish, nasty, and terrible at not fucking themselves and everyone else, over. Based on past elections, however, it has shown that white people definitely do want America to be a failed state and that minority voters are primarily the ones who have done the legwork with their vote, in order to prevent that from happening, literally.
>>2454 >WHITE WOMAN = EVIL CONSERVATIVE RACIST >UNLESS YOU SPECIFICALLY VOTE FOR A WHITE MAN'S PARTY WE TELL YOU TO VOTE FOR You need to get out of US sometimes. Just go for a week to the subcontinent for a week after 'rona, or turkey, or thailand, wherever there are cheap tours, take a break from US and it's specific issues. I'm sure the majority women here are happy to discuss radical politics and perks of Biden's policies for the black population over trump. Or you could go to my flyshittown in eastern europe and tell every white privileged bitch of every nationality you meet how she's racist for never seeing a black person IRL and probably voting trump if there was any voting here. It's ok, they and their serf ancestors must be ashamed of litelally being evil colonizers. They deserve their 3rd world living conditions and abysmal violence rates.
>>2458 You sound insane.
>>2459 Why, I thought you distrust all white women? There's plenty of white women outside of the USA and they don't even have every other demograhics, including liberal white men, to tell them it's their fault we dont live in hippy paradise. Don't they need to know their place?
>>2460 There was an implicit reference to AMERICAN white women in that anon’s rant considering she was discussing the elections that recently occurred. I don’t fully agree with her train of thought but you are being retarded on purpose.
>>2460 This is an Americentric conversation. You're a moron to even get this offended that people recognize that a majority of white women vote like absolute dogshit. Stay out of conversations about America if you can't control your narcissism and must insert yourself into our conversation over our very particular politics and racial issues. You also sound like a man that thinks he's getting white genocided that's trying really hard (and failing) to pretend he's a woman, btw.
>>2458 >Or you could go to my flyshittown in eastern europe and tell every white privileged bitch of every nationality you meet how she's racist for never seeing a black person IRL and probably voting trump if there was any voting here You know that most women here would vote for Trump if they were American so kek.
>>2467 So would most women of every other nationality in that part of the planet. So would most women in non-white countries. Most women aren't liberal or left. Most women would rather eat a ball of snot than identify as feminists even if they agree with certain points and aren't actively ruining lives of other women and girls. Not because they have any thought out understanding of right-wing positions, but because an utter lack of understanding and interest in politics is a marker of a normal patriarchal woman. If anything, avid tradthots like Phyllis Schlaffy of any ages are treated as an abberation more than anything. It's just not a thing that for men and women of the same demographics to have a different majority choice. White men chose trump, so white women chose trump. Black men chose biden, so black women chose biden. Did black men choose bad-touch-uncle biden because it is more feminist? Oh fuck no, black men chose a better deal for black men. Will the baiter above cut out all the black men in her life and keep them 6ft away? lol fuck no. Did most black women choose biden because he is better for women or for POC? And by the way, haven't you seen russian girls virtue signalling for BLM and against cultural appropriation in USA lately, in the russian interners? Same russian girls never give a fuck about any plight in their own country and look down on working class women of any nationality. Because they identify with their liberal circle and males from their liberal circle more that any other group. These cargo cultists would surely choose biden if only they could and they shill for him online. Problem is, they are hardly feminist and never spoke to a black person before.
>>2469 actually untrue. there's actually a somewhat sizeable difference in who hispanic women and men support and the way they vote.
>>2469 >Most women aren't liberal or left. Most people are liberals and liberalism is not left wing
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>>2476 That is not true even in America. But most people are not staunch conservatives either.


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