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On False-Flagging Accusations Anonymous Admin 02/10/2020 (Mon) 23:17:57 No. 131
I reserved commenting on this here until I could reach out to the admin of Lolcow. To be clear, no, I’ve never created a fake scrote thread on Lolcow, made threats toward users, or attempted to deceive anyone. However, I did attempt to speak up for myself on /meta/. After two posts, I was redtexted with “(stop)”, and got a ban message telling me I can e-mail them to “try” to disprove it, but they “know it’s me”. As I said before, I lurk very, very often. I see how the sudden appearance worked against my case, but it just didn’t feel right to sit things out, so I acted on impulse. I’ll own up to that much, because that was actually me. As a sidenote, I have never posted an image of myself or one that's related to myself on lolcow.farm, and I never will. The biggest cause of confusion seems to be around Opera's VPN function. It offers three regions. Europe, Asia and Americas. They each come with their own IP or proxy range. I primarily use Europe, so that's where the majority of my mod posts stem from. Anyone who installs Opera and uses Europe is likely to receive an IP from the same proxy range as myself, or even the same IP itself. In this sense, anyone could hypothetically impersonate me on Lolcow. Anyone who uses a VPN is probably used to receiving ban messages that were obviously meant for someone else. That said, to sum things up, Lolcow’s admin and I spoke over e-mail, but we couldn’t come to an agreement. She came into the exchange mostly unwilling to believe that there could be any actual room for confusion, insisting that "proof was posted", and my IP was linked to multiple threatening posts and spam. After asking two or three times, she tried to get me to expose my real IP, essentially opening myself up to actual doxxing and tracking to prove it’s not me. She did this while insisting that she had my IP, anyway, which was strange. She somehow went from “Opera VPN won’t save you, ham-chan. You are using a cheap VPN, so it’ll be hard to trace all your posts” to “You’ve never used a VPN, you just thought you did, so your IP leaked. I already have your IP, but reveal it to me, anyway”. I can’t tell if she did this out of some misplaced spite, a clever form of misdirection from heat that was placed on her, or if she’s just completely sure of what she’s saying, and won’t even pause to consider that she might not always be right. Either way, my trust in the current Lolcow administration’s integrity is low enough to put me off sharing my actual IP, or anything that can be seen as personal information. She’s completely free to mark whichever posts or information that are most convenient to this narrative as “me”. Since she was deliberately vague about how exactly she concluded things, from our own understanding, it appears that Lolcow’s staff have amassed a large amount of VPN posts, and are presenting them as a single user. She did mention using linked cookies to identify posters. I found it strange that she chose not to mention that openly on /meta/, instead choosing to talk about proxy ranges. The cookie explanation is kind of weak as proof for a lot of reasons, but if it's true, and the staff does actually utilize software that uses cookies to track users and catalog their every post, I think it’s somewhat twisted to not have informed the user base of that from the very beginning. To anons who may not have previously known about this, be very careful about what you share on Lolcow. Under its current ownership, privacy does not seem to be entirely respected. It remains questionable whether your information is safe in their hands. At the risk of “shilling” this site, we don’t do that on Asherah’s Garden. We have no interest in starting drama with users, keeping tabs on them or covering our asses if we fuck up. You can criticise us and tinfoil all you want. As long as you’re not a scrote or tranny, you can rest assured we’re not going to do anything about it, other than read your posts, consider what you’ve said and maybe respond. At most, we’ll delete intolerable shitposts, trolling or spam, and if it becomes a problem, we’ll just actually start logging IPs, announce that we are, and ban you if you keep it up. Nothing drawn out, no autistic traps or mind games, no powertripping bullshit. I understand how juicy it is to hear about a mentally unstable, false-flagging admin of a scrote-made board, and that’s why I’m sure some anons may cling to this whole thing. That’s alright, and if the doubt is heavy enough to make the site feel uncomfortable for anons to use, I take no issue with stepping down as admin and never being seen or heard from again. In the end, I’m just another anonymous user myself. There’s still another female mod, and the site remains open to applications from anyone who would like to own it, as it has been from the start.
Edited last time by iridium on 02/10/2020 (Mon) 23:32:37.
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I'm posting our e-mail exchange here for anons to read for themselves.
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This is all of it.
Admin and her team were so confident when they first outed Erin's posts as well and it turns out they were wrong. Lolcow admin is so incompetent even the cows are laughing at the site now. I don't trust her "outings" whatsoever.
Honestly it's fine. I had the suspicion that lc admin has some weird vendetta against this site(and gc, pp and radfem anons in general) and maybe some of the farmhands too, which is extra strange considering they were the ones banning that userbase in the first place? Either way it's probably better not to further engage on lolcow. I appreciate you wanting to set things right and explaining everything in detail, but at this point I think they are waiting for any fooder to badmouth you and the staff.
>The cookie explanation is kind of weak as proof for a lot of reasons, but if it's true, and the staff does actually utilize software that uses cookies to track users and catalog their every post, I think it’s somewhat twisted to not have informed the user base of that from the very beginning. >To anons who may not have previously known about this, be very careful about what you share on Lolcow. >Under its current ownership, privacy does not seem to be entirely respected. It remains questionable whether your information is safe in their hands. This has been known for a while. If you look at how they outed Kiki Kannibal as posting there, they clearly are doing a lot to track anyone who posts there. It's creepy. The site seems to hate its own users as much as anyone unfortunate enough to have a thread made about them.
>>229 The Kiki stuff was a different admin. The current admin has no idea what the fuck she's doing, she uses the Kiki posts to scare people but genuinely believed all opera vpn users were the same poster. Also keeks was spamming gore, doing something about her was reasonable, this new admin is just a psycho out to dox her userbase. Fortunately not a competent one.
>>136 That site has a very strange mentality to demonize everyone, even people they do know in person, the personal cow thread is chock full of this.
>>229 Do people not delete the cookies? It's not hard to avoid being tracked.


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