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Anonymous 09/17/2020 (Thu) 16:59:41 No. 432
Thoughts on Accelerationist XenoFeminism?
>>433 Ever heard of Nick Land? That, but feminist.
Hack nature for great justice! don't like misogyny or your stats as a women? Transition!
Is this similar transhumanist and technocratic bullshit? Look, technology isn't going to do shit without change in society and government. Research into women's bodies, providing options and better health care for female conditions is good. But until patriarchy is abolished this will all be used by men to oppress women.
My message is there is no equality between men and women. There will never be. We either take hold of science and technology now and subjugate them or they will destroy us. It is already happening: Trannies invading our spaces, technology for artificial wombs and eggs being under development, etc. There is no such thing as separatism as long as they control science and technology, they will never leave us alone. Radical feminism isn't a strong movement, there are very few women who are radfems. Trannies are being allowed in our bathrooms, sex exchange surgeries are legal, development of artificial wombs, etc and nothing is currently stoping this. It will get to a point where there's no turning back
For anyone else who had never heard of Xenofeminism: https://laboriacuboniks.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/qx8bq.txt I'd never heard of accelerationism either, some kind of postmodern anticapitalist nonsense from what I can gather
>>438 >A sense of the world's volatility and artificiality seems to have faded from contemporary queer and feminist politics, in favour of a plural but static constellation of gender identities, in whose bleak light equations of the good and the natural are stubbornly restored. While having (perhaps) admirably expanded thresholds of 'tolerance', too often we are told to seek solace in unfreedom, staking claims on being 'born' this way, as if offering an excuse with nature's blessing. All the while, the heteronormative centre chugs on. XF challenges this centrifugal referent, knowing full well that sex and gender are exemplary of the fulcrum between norm and fact, between freedom and compulsion. To tilt the fulcrum in the direction of nature is a defensive concession at best, and a retreat from what makes trans and queer politics more than just a lobby: that it is an arduous assertion of freedom against an order that seemed immutable. Like every myth of the given, a stable foundation is fabulated for a real world of chaos, violence, and doubt. The 'given' is sequestered into the private realm as a certainty, whilst retreating on fronts of public consequences. When the possibility of transition became real and known, the tomb under Nature's shrine cracked, and new histories -- bristling with futures -- escaped the old order of 'sex'. The disciplinary grid of gender is in no small part an attempt to mend that shattered foundation, and tame the lives that escaped it. The time has now come to tear down this shrine entirely, and not bow down before it in a piteous apology for what little autonomy has been won. I took the time to actually parse all that out into meaning and I almost agreed but she said "When the possibility of transition became real and known", but it isn't real, so she lost me.
>>440 Fuck this
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>>438 >>440 a) this is absolutely a troon, b) this is painful to read, and c) i need to reiterate that these are the pseudointellectual ramblings of a tweaking troon
I found a better manifesto, that Anti-Transhumanist Manifesto: http://privacysurgeon.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Human-manifesto_26_short-1.pdf It always seemed like transhumanism and transgender rights activism had nothing to do with each other and the trans part was just coincidence, and I still think it's coincidence but I am also starting to see the link. I haven't read that manifesto but there are some section headings I agree with and think are relevant: >Reality is NOT the totality of information >Humans are NOT Information Objects but Animals of Meaning >Artificial Intelligence can NEVER be intelligent in a Human Sense Grimes is transhumanism. I'm staunchly humanist, which means that rather than just dismissing it all as gobbledegook, I have my own gobbledegook about infinite human capability. The difference is that I see human-ness as the source of power, not a power limit or an obstacle to be transcended (pun intended).
>>443 >It always seemed like transhumanism and transgender rights activism had nothing to do with each other It always seemed like they did actually. Look up Martine Rothblatt I'm personally not against transhumanism per se but against the many ways in which it can take place. Also, as long as humans exist there are only 2 sexes and you can not change yours and attempting it must be made illegal
What is needed are genetically engineered designer babies who are both Stacey's and crucially not pickmes.
>>447 I mean Im not into super transhumanism, but I sorta like the idea of gene suppression and picking the best genes of you and partner for your future child, if I could I'd have suppress the shors genes and the bipolarism that runs in my family for my future daughter or son Sorta like gattica https://youtu.be/PaYoa985poA
>>438 >0x00 Ours is a world in vertigo. It is a world that swarms with technological mediation, interlacing our daily lives with abstraction, virtuality, and complexity. Right off the bat, you just know this is some tranny shit. This is starting off like someone's lame sci-fi story, and we know how much trannies love that kind of thing. >Anyone who's been deemed 'unnatural' in the face of reigning biological norms, anyone who's experienced injustices wrought in the name of natural order, will realize that the glorification of 'nature' has nothing to offer us -- the queer and trans among us, the differently-abled, as well as those who have suffered discrimination due to pregnancy or duties connected to child-rearing. "The queer and trans", lmao. Notice how those two groups come directly before women who suffer sex/reproductive based discrimination. This person is afraid to say "women" in the context of oppression.
>>467 "..Anyone who's been deemed 'unnatural' in the face of reigning biological norms, anyone who's experienced injustices wrought in the name of natural order, will realize that the glorification of 'nature' has nothing to offer us -- the queer and trans among us.." My eyes are bleeding after reading this
>>478 I mean. The fact that we need male sperm to reproduce is kind of disgusting. I'd be for finding a way to have children without the aid of a man.
>>491 Don't complain about trannies then
>>492 Why not?
>>493 If you artificialize reproduction you automatically open the gate for all sorts of things than can undermine women, incluiding the creation of artificial wombs and eggs >But I'm disgusted by sperm eww Really? That's your problem? Well, just don't have kids then instead of relying on/ being depended solely on technology or some transhumanist future. It's like how trannies' womanhood is something completely depended on clothes, makeup and hormones. You take that all out and there are no trans women
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